Voter Fraud Interview With Author John Fund

John Fund was born in Tucson, Arizona. He later attended California State University where he studied journalism and economics. Fund joined The Wall Street Journal as a deputy editorial features editor in 1984 and was a member of the editorial board from 1995 through 2001. His written articles have appeared in Esquire, Reader’s Digest, Reason, The New Republic, and National Review. Currently, he is a senior editor of The American Spectator.

Fund is the author of several books, including Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy (Encounter Books, 2004) and The Dangers of Regulation Through Litigation (American Tort Reform Foundation, 2000).

He is a tireless opponent of pork barrel, earmarks, and lack of transparency in Congress.

Fund’s latest writing endeavor is Who’s Counting? which he co-authored with Hans Von Spakoovsky. It was published by Encounter Books in 2012.

DWIGHT L. SCHWAB, JR.: How much danger is there that the country could have another Florida-style meltdown this November like the Bush vs. Gore recount?

JOHN FUND: There are lawyers all over the country watching every state like a hawk for bureaucratic bungling or fraud. It turns out in 2000 there were at least four or five states that could have been as scrutinized as Florida. Iowa, Oregon, New Mexico, New Hampshire, etc. There wasn’t enough time and energy, much less lawyers, because Florida had so many more electoral votes than the states I mentioned.

If the election is close again, like the polls indicate, we could see more than one Florida. We could see three or four Florida’s. The total of both parties has the capacity of 10,000 lawyers monitoring this election, and 10,000 lawyers equals litigation. Now the winning party has to win more than a victory, but a margin beyond litigation.

SCHWAB: You feel then that it could be held down to four or so states?

FUND: I cannot predict that. All I can say is that in 2000 there were easily four or five states that could have been contested. In 2004, John Kerry’s lawyers said if the race was a little closer they would have contested Ohio. That would have become another Florida-style situation.

SCHWAB: How sloppy is our election system?

FUND: It varies because we have a de-centralized voting system run by all 50 states and 3,156 counties. Some states are very good, some states are abysmal and some states are cesspools of corruption. It varies, but in general, we have a very sloppy system. The Pew Research Center reports that one out of eight voter registrations have invalid or major errors in them. The Pew Research Center further says we have approximately two million dead people on the voting rolls.

That means if I walk into a polling center that doesn’t require ID, I scribble a signature that has to match up, they look at it and I can vote for someone who is dead.

SCHWAB: Should we be worried about this, or is it infinitesimal?

FUND: We don’t know. The scenario I just described to you is … how would we know?

Look, Eric Holder, the Attorney General of the United States has lived in the same Washington neighborhood for 32 years. He routinely doesn’t vote in primaries – you can find it out from public records. In other words, he votes in general elections and not primaries. The Democratic primary in Washington doesn’t mean much, okay?

In May, the Democratic primary, a 22-year-old white kid with an earring and a beard, walked into to Holder’s polling place where he had voted for 32 years where they had seen him and know him. He said, “Do you have an Eric Holder at such and such an address,” and they immediately handed him Eric Holder’s ballot. He didn’t vote because that would have been a crime. He left telling them he needed to go out to his car to get his ID. They said he didn’t need it but he said he “felt more comfortable showing ID” and left saying he’d be back as quick as you can say ‘fast and furious.’

He never came back of course.

But the bottom line of this is he is the Attorney General of the United States of America – someone walks in off the street, asks for his ballot and they just hand it to him? He could easily have voted since Eric Holder doesn’t vote in primaries – who would have caught him? Who? There’s no way you could have caught such a thing.

SCHWAB: So why is the attorney general so adamantly against any form of voter ID?

FUND: Well, it’s very strange because a television interviewer asked him the other day, “Don’t you need an ID to enter the Justice Department?” Eric Holder preposterously said, “No, you don’t need an ID, anyone can come in to talk to me.”

That’s ridiculous.

You need an ID to enter any federal building including the right to petition your grievances. Eric Holder showed up at the NAACP convention in Houston, this was in July. He gave a thunderous speech denouncing Voter ID as a return of Jim Crow and the poll tax. Do you know what you had to show to get into that speech?

SCHWAB: A picture ID.

FUND: Government issued. So why is Eric Holder excluding people from his speeches by enforcing them to show ID?

SCHWAB: Is that sort of thinking because Democrats think it will help their voting turnout?

FUND: Let’s just say there are places where voter fraud is a tradition, a way of life and people have depended on it in close elections. Maybe the attorney general doesn’t want to fight that sort of entrenched local tradition.

SCHWAB: Mayor Emanuel being our new Mayor Daly in Cook County (Chicago)?

FUND: Well there hasn’t been much of an election since Emanuel took over, but I will say he is part of the Daly machine. It’s not just a joke, the Daly machine routinely fields votes and turns it into an art form.

SCHWAB: On another topic, how did Al Franken’s disputed 2008 senate victory in Minnesota change history. That went on and on and …

FUND: Well, he would eventually be seated and the margin would be declared 312 votes – lots of disputes about whether absentee ballots would be included or excluded. He was in the Senate to become the 60th vote to pass Obamacare. His vote was the crucial deciding vote. It is generally accepted that without him we would not have Obamacare in its current form.

He has become an historic figure since Obamacare constitutes one-sixth of our economy. After the election, a Minnesota watchdog organization provided definitive evidence that 1100 felons voted illegally in that election.

No, we can’t be certain how they voted because it was a secret ballot, but when Fox News went out and surveyed them, 9 out of 10 said Al Franken. We also know that they were registered by party, part of them – you sign up and acknowledge which party you are affiliated with, about 70-75 percent of felons routinely register Democrat.

So it’s a fair statement that of those 1100 votes decided the election and most likely were the cause of it going in Franken’s favor. Now, the Minnesota majority brought this to the prosecutors, and many prosecutors decided to not do anything with it. Some did.

They went after a few people. You couldn’t go after anyone who admitted making a mistake. You have to prove they committed a crime. The ones who were smart enough said they made a mistake and didn’t know they couldn’t vote. They weren’t prosecuted.

For those dumb enough to not say this and say “yes they did do so with intent,” 198 were convicted in Minnesota of voting fraud, 66 more are in the process and dozens more under investigation.

Dwight, they are getting more people convicted of illegally voting in that election than the margin of victory.


Dwight L. Schwab Jr.
Dwight L. Schwab Jr. is a moderate conservative who looks at all sides of a story, then speaks his mind. He has written more than 3500 national political and foreign affairs columns. His BS in journalism from the University of Oregon, with minors in political science and American history stands him in good stead for his writing.


Dwight has 30-years in the publishing industry, including ABC/Cap Cities and International Thomson. His first book, "Redistribution of Common Sense - Selective Commentaries on the Obama Administration 2009-2014," was published in July, 2014. "The Game Changer - America's Most Stunning Presidential Election in History," was published in April 2017.


Dwight is a native of Portland, Oregon, and now a resident of the San Francisco Bay Area.