Israel: Abrogating Mistaken Politics
When, in 1993, Israel signed the Oslo Accords with the arch terrorist Yasser Arafat, it paved the way to delegitimization of its existence. The world has been traveling on this path ever since.
The time has come to redirect the happy travelers onto a new path that will serve Israel's interests and will change her stance in the world.
Twenty years of stepping in one place, no peace with the Arabs in sight, even worse, regressing and being pummeled in the international arena, has made many Israelis finally catch their heads. The epiphany is the Oslo Accords, which gave birth to the "peace process" and the "two state solution," all invented and imposed on them by Shimon Peres, Yossi Beilin et al, was nothing more than a horrific mistake. More so, such a solution could be described as the end of the nation state of the Jewish people, Israel.
Twenty Years of "Peace Process" Charade
Even when we bear in mind that the facts of twenty years of the "peace process" charade shine in front of every human being who chooses to face and admit to the truth, there are those who still peddle this idiotic idea.
Early this week, I received a mail from the Jewish-Israel News & Views, titled: "Should North American pro-Israel Jewish Organizations Be Advocating Support For The 2 State Solution?" written by Bill Narvey, from Calgary Alberta Canada. [see link below]
When I saw the title, in it the "2 State Solution", I did not agree, because for me, the two state is not a solution for Israel, rather its dissolution. Since I belong to few Internet debate groups, I was copied on many replies to this article, from pundits as well as sensible activists from around the world.
To me, the two state "solution" is tops among the five greatest mistakes Israel has ever made. An agreement that was never thought through and has been frantically pursued by one government of Israel after another, and that I define as foolish at best, and schizophrenically insane at worst.
After much thinking, I have decided to make some of these replies public, in order to assert the fact that the Peter Beinart, Thomas Friedman, Bill Narvey et al of the world are in the minority and DO NOT speak for the Israelis, who, at the end of the day are the ones who will have to decide their fate.
Israelis will have to decide if they want to give up Judea and Samaria to a bunch of terrorists who want to annihilate their existing state and kill every Jew living there, or find a solution that will be best for them and the generations to come; a solution that will ensure that Israel exists, if not in peace with the Moslem states around her, then at least with total security and deterrence.
The truth is that two Jews hardly agree on anything, let alone a whole nation, but I believe that the majority of Israeli-Jews will agree with all the opinions presented below.
Here are the gems in responses I have collated - with names kept confidential:
MS: Israel cannot - and will not - survive a two state solution. This failed fraudulent notion must be removed from the debate as soon as possible
The access to leadership is a function of the vigor of Israeli diplomacy. The situation we see today is a reflection of the lack thereof.
Imagine if Israel decided to allot for the next decade 0.005 of its GDP for public diplomacy, i.e. one billion dollars, to make its case loud and clear instead of the pathetically puny sums assigned today.
With a billion dollars you can buy a lot of friends and influence, and access.
The problem is that Israel has lost the will to win - because the Left who control the discourse in the land have made "victory" an inadmissible concept. Because if victory is feasible there is no need to concede [to give up land] and that would invalidate the Left world view, which brings them so much goodies.
BC: I don't believe in a 2-state solution, not even the one in which Jordan is Palestine. The whole land was stolen, and the Jews have, by far, the best legal case. If Israel wants the land, it has to take it, get rid of the little "Liar King" of Jordan, and start encouraging Arabs to take his place over there.
Re-electing that psychopath and liar US president is a great concern. However, I really doubt Netanyahu formed a broad coalition for this purpose. Because Bibi caves in to US presidents, no matter what. Lucky Israel he doesn't need to deal with Ahmadinejad face to face, otherwise he would cave in, too. He scores points by kowtowing to Ehud Barak and the High Court and expelling Jews, whom he does not deal with face to face.
So let us continue the fight, because a 2-state solution, principally west of the Jordan river, may be worse than death for Israel.
As SH says, most Israelis are unfit to govern Israel. In my view, that weird system of election and governing they have in Israel only exacerbate what SH says.
EK: From my position, it seems that only Left wing pacifiers are willing to give in to the "Two State Solution".
I disagree with your observation. By all international laws, biblical laws and other practical reasons, I will never agree to a two state solution, especially when I believe that the only solution is a ONE Jewish State solution. Only Left wing liberal weenies believe that the Arabs, who lost the wars they waged on Israel, are entitled to a state called Palestine on the west side of the Jordan River.
Do you actually believe that once we give the Arabs that state they will love the Jews? Of course not. That being the case, why should the Arabs have their state in the proximity of Israel where they would be a constant threat to the safety of her citizens? The Jordan River is a natural border that can provide a common defense for both, Arabs and Jews. The same holds true for Gaza; 6 million Jews need to be secure from one billion Arabs who, at a blink of an eye, would cut the head off any Jew.
Israel and Jews around the world need to stand up to Obama and the EU and their pitiful threats. If Israel takes the proper steps to finally annex Judea and Samaria, Obama would be neutered.
All those who advocate, support and promote a two state solution do so for only one reason. They hope it will be the final solution to the Jews. All of them know clearly that such a situation would lead to the mass murder of all the Jews in Israel and later in the rest of the world and that is exactly what they want. To those Jews who promote this, all I can say is why wait? Kill yourself today and avoid the rush.
Bill, I still do not understand your acceptance of the status quo of Israel. To me it sounds that you have surmised that there is nothing that Israelis can do to change the political position that exists in today's Israeli arena. Again, if this is true, I disagree. Israel must strike while the iron is hot, while there is confusion in the ranks of the Arabs with their so called "Arab Spring" revolutions. The existential threat of Iran looms large and, by doing nothing it becomes more dangerous for Israel by the day.
Do Israelis deserve to live under this threat each day and accept their fate, which would be in the hands of Muslims? Or will Israel act for its own welfare and break the bonds? In my opinion, so long as Jews and Arabs live within the same confines, there will never be peace. Natural, geographic borders will be the only answer for any chance of a peace to exist for Israel. The taking, even if by force, all of Judea and Samaria and Gaza, annexing, occupying and fortifying the borders will give Israel the breathing room she needs for a long period of time. Even in the future, if this is true, for the Muslims, as stated in the Koran, Jews must die, let it be on the Jews' terms and not the Arabs'.
What I have not mentioned in this context is that today there are almost 8 million citizens in Israel - Jews and Arabs - and I forecast that in ten years there will be fifteen million and growing, largely because of Jew baiting in Europe that will increase Aliyah, thus the need to have the land that, anyhow, legally belongs to Israel.
SH: I cannot help noticing that those who, by design, either been to Israel for some time, or live in Israel permanently, have completely different positions with reference to Eretz Israel, from those who have never been to visit the land or spent a short visit here.
My brother, who is very much on the left side of things, once said something that I remember as point of reference.
Galut-Diaspora Jews are no different than other human beings. Most people adopt positions that would make their lives easier. Jews in Eretz Israel cannot bend to that.
Those Jews who choose to remain in the Galut cannot possibly relate to Har-Gerizim or Kever Yoshua ben-Nun, etc., in the way Jews who live in Israel do.
While on a visit to Samaria, a few weeks ago, we ascended Mount Gerizim, walking up the mountain on an ancient trail. We stopped to look down the valley to where Kever Yoseph is located.
Our younger son was with us; he picked up a pebble that I later on placed on the shelf over my desk. He wrote about the stone: could this stone have been there when Yoshuah ben-Nun led the Jews to the Altar in Mount Gerizim, after they crossed the Jordan River? Sure it was, he wrote. Plain and simple.
Regardless of protestations, we will not follow what is convenient to foreigners, be them Jewish or Goyim-non-Jews. Nothing doing.
Nothing will be permanently changed in Israel by following compromises to come or past ones, made to please foreign folks.
Even the Sinai peninsula is seemingly back in the cauldron.
There will be NO compromises so that other governments, or people, feel better and secure outside Eretz Israel. Oil and trade may be important to others but to US, Eretz Israel trumps it all.
BM: Though oftentimes I agree with your op-ed pieces, this time I strongly disagree with the conclusion you have drawn - that North American pro-Israel Jewish organizations should support a two-state solution. One of the main arguments you have made to reach that conclusion is the following:
If mainstream Jewish organizations were to suddenly adopt the positions of the anti-2 state solution, even if such positions are unassailably proven, mainstream Jewish organizations would find themselves taking a position antithetical to government policy and majority attitudes. The result, they would quickly find that the access to government and the power elite, they have, successfully cultivated over the years, being denied to them.
Don't you think that the politicians would be interested in the Jewish vote despite leadership's adoption of that "antithetical" position? And, don't you think they would still be interested in the political dollars represented by some of the people comprising that vote? Politicians will always be interested in the Jewish vote and in attracting Jewish political contributions! That being said, wouldn't it be nice for those politicians to hear the truth for a change? It might even make sense to them!
Bill, as you are probably well aware, some of Israel's most esteemed members of the Knesset have publicly stated that implementation of the two-state solution would result in Israel's destruction.
In 2007, Brig. Gen., Retired, MK Dr. Arieh Eldad, who was the head of the burn unit at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem during the height of the Intifada, said: "The two-state-solution is dead. The Palestinians never wanted it. If they did they would have had an independent state as early as 1948. Israelis understand that any land given over to Arabs serves only as the next terror base against Israel."
In September 2008,Prof. MK Yuval Steinitz, an active member of Peace Now, before Oslo and a former chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, said: "The idea of a two-state solution should be dead, today, because unfortunately a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria would bring about Israel's demise... [Such a Palestinian state would] immediately become an outpost for Iran." "I felt that what we did was a terrible mistake [signing on to the Oslo Accords in 1993] … I realized that, to my frustration, we were giving up land for war and terror and incitement." As the Palestinians continued with their anti-Israel and anti-Semitic rhetoric, he worried that "instead of a demilitarized Palestinian state we might end up with a militarized Palestinian state in the center of the country."
Steinitz said that the only reason Qassam rockets had not been fired at the center of the country or at Ben-Gurion International Airport was because Israel had a military presence in the West Bank.
When President Mahmoud Abbas (The "moderate") hugged Lebanese terrorist Samir Kuntar, the man who killed three Jews in Naharyia, including a four-year-old girl, it showed Steinitz that Abbas was no different than the former PA leader Yasser Arafat.
In April, 2010, Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya'alon, said: "Those who want to continue the Oslo process, who want us to continue to give and give and give, without a Palestinian willingness to recognize our right to a national home, are cooperating with the phased plans for Israel's destruction."
On May 19, 2011, Likud MK Danny Danon said: "Barack Hussein Obama adopted Yasser Arafat's staged plan for Israel's destruction, and he is trying to force it on our prime minister. All that was new in the speech was that he called for Israel to return to 1967 borders, without solving the crisis. Netanyahu has only one option: Tell Obama to forget about it."
Tuesday, 12.13.2011, Education Minister Gideon Sa'ar said that the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank is a "dangerous move" which will not "bring peace."
Educating Mainstream Jewish Leadership
It is incumbent upon the supporters of Israel to educate mainstream Jewish leadership about the suicidal two-state "solution" paradigm. Then, it is incumbent upon the leadership to strongly lobby their local and national politicians - with confidence and conviction - about the likely disastrous results of that failed "peace" plan.
Imagine if the Jewish organizations were united in opposition to the two-state "solution," and they advertised it in major newspapers and on TV. Don't you think that would be a better approach than agreeing with a position to which they oppose, just to get an ear in the Capitol and White House and to keep things the way they are? What they/we are doing is not working. In fact, Israel is in much more peril than ever before! We must try something DIFFERENT. The Truth sounds like a great place at which to start.
Caroline just published the article, Let's embrace our friends - friends are the 350,000 Jews living in Judea and Samaria US Congress members tell Israel to embrace.
Judea and Samaria happened to be the heart of ancient, historical Israel. Therefore, there should be no capitulation to any demands from anyone for a "two state solution." A solution between two parties - in this case the Arabs and the Israeli-Jews - implies some kind of equity of outcome for each side. Giving up Judea and Samaria serves only one side, the Arab side, and that side still teaches each new generation to murder Jews who are their eternal enemy.
The emphasis is on leadership. We need strong leadership in Israel who does what is right for Israel's survival no matter what pressure and international demands they face. Putting up the security wall and fences with check points was just such a bold strategy that protects Israeli lives well. And all over the world, Israel suffers from bad PR as a result, yet, it was the right thing to do, and it works.
Those who lie about Israel already out there claiming that Israel is an expansionist state, wanting to "occupy" and take over all the land as far as the eye can see. So why not simply leave the land that already belongs to historical Israel and be done with it?
The Israeli-Jews will suffer world condemnation no matter what steps they take. That is the nature of our lot, as Jews, in life. So because of, or in spite of that fact, Israel should act, selfishly, and on behalf of Israel and her future survival.
The time is now to unite, shred the two-state idea and put the entire Judea and Samaria under Israeli law. Then find a solution to the terrorist enclave Gaza, that works for Israel, and be done with the Hamastan cesspool. And finally open a new and politically healthy page in modern Israel history.
Here is the link to Bill Narvey's article: Should North American pro-Israel Jewish organizations advocate support for the 2 State Solution?
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